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Post by mickmack on Apr 1, 2007 21:35:56 GMT
I remember Martin Beckett playing for the Kerry minors aginst Tyrone in 1989 in Parnell Park in a replay of the all ireland semi final.
It finished 23 points to 22 points or something like that. Tyrone won. Cormac McAnallen was playing that day too. A wonderful game.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 1, 2007 23:03:20 GMT
The crokes should have won the first day,its as simple as that,you cant look a gift horse in the mouth.
life will go on in killarney,paddys day is gone and Easter becons,soon the town will be trobbing with tourists,mouths to be feed,beds to be changed and jarveys to be filled.
the bus tours have been leaving the town and doing the ring already for the last few weeks.
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Post by joan on Apr 1, 2007 23:14:30 GMT
great run, hard luck, but they can be proud they made it to a replay fianl. Things just did not work on the day
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Post by mickmack on Apr 2, 2007 21:14:05 GMT
I agree that they should have closed it out the first day. The way that they lost posession in the final 10 minutes was terrible. Ardfert showed how to close out a game....... they did it for the entire second half in the intermediate final.
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Post by kerry07 on Apr 3, 2007 1:51:56 GMT
Hard luck on the Crokes. To be blackguarded by a ref once is terrible but to be so on the second day tells a certain story, and we all know what that might be. Fair play to our President this evening on the 6pm news? He really showed appreciation for class footballers who have filled many seats and drawn serious money for the suits in return for nothing only the privelege of having his likes as president. He's a good one/should be ashamed of himself. Puke football pays like rugby and soccer simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by seamus on Apr 3, 2007 8:44:09 GMT
What did he say?
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Post by pony on Apr 3, 2007 23:19:00 GMT
Crokes livid over ‘unsavoury’ incidents but won’t appeal club final result
By Tony Leen DR CROKES will not appeal the result of Sunday’s controversial All-Ireland club final, but will file a letter of complaint to Croke Park detailing allegations of several “unsavoury” incidents involving Crossmaglen officials and supporters during and after the game.
The incidents in question had left “a sour taste”, according to Dr Crokes chairman, Patrick O’Sullivan. He said Dr Crokes felt more aggrieved about these incidents than the failure of referee Eugene Murtagh to send off Crossmaglen’s John McEntee, despite showing him two yellow cards.
“The club is very bitter about the stuff that went on, far more so than on the yellow card. I’ve had a lot of parents onto me today expressing their disgust, and looking for action from the GAA.
“We had 40 kids there on Sunday, and it was a poor advert for the GAA.”
The Croke Park complaint will detail several allegations — that two Dr Crokes subs were “intimidated” by a Crossmaglen “maor uisce” at the end of the first half, that Crokes midfielder Ambrose O’Donovan was struck in the back of the head by a Crossmaglen fan after being sent off, and that Gardaí had to twice intervene to stop other Crokes subs sitting in the stand being threatened by Crossmaglen fans.
The Crokes chairman claimed that a couple of Crossmaglen supporters were evicted from the area as a result by Gardaí and stewards.
O’Sullivan added that no-one from the winning camp saw fit to visit the Dr Crokes dressing room after the game — even though the chairman and coach, Pat O’Shea both visited the winners’ celebrations afterwards.
“If this is the kind of antics that Crossmaglen are going to bring to the game, then it is little wonder that Ulster football gets so much bad publicity,” the Dr Crokes chairman said.
“We felt obliged to draw the Gardaí’s attention to two of the incidents — the sideline intimidation and the O’Donovan incident with a fan.”
He said Crokes officials had brought the referee’s mistake on John McEntee to the attention of the linesman, and claimed they were “more or less told to get stuffed.”
Crokes are also fuming at the lack of protection afforded to their star player, Colm Cooper, which Mr O’Sullivan claimed went way beyond the normal “rough and tumble” of gaelic football.
“There’s no doubt that certain Crokes players were targeted — Colm, Eoin Brosnan and Kieran O’Leary,” he claimed.
Crossmaglen chairman Tommy Coleman said he was unaware of such allegations. “This is news to me,” he said last night. “I didn’t see anything unsavoury at the game.”
“I did see the Gardaí over in front of the subs but from where I was sitting at the other side I couldn’t hear or see exactly what happened.”
He stressed: “This wouldn’t be our style and we would not condone that kind of carry on by anyone associated with the club.”
Mr Coleman said that he and club chiefs would have no problem investigating any claims of wrong doing.
“If we need to have an investigation, we will have an investigation. We have our own video and the video from TG4 which we can study if we need to. But as I said I didn’t see any problem.”
Mr Coleman admitted that the controversies since Sunday have ‘taken the gloss’ off Crossmaglen’s win — their fourth All Ireland title in 10 years.
“It has taken some of the gloss off it. First you had the controversy over the two yellow cards and now this. But the referee made a mistake not us. We played exceptionally well and Pat O’Shea has acknowledged that fact.”
GAA President Nickey Brennan said yesterday he will ask “serious questions” about the McEntee affair, but does not believe his dismissal would have changed the course of the game.
“I’m as frustrated as anyone else that such a situation occurred. I personally don’t believe it had an impact on the game but that is not the issue at stake. I wouldn’t be happy with it and there will be people I have to talk to about how it can be solved in the future.’’
The Competitions Control Committee (CCC) will consider Murtagh’s report today. Meanwhile Brennan will also be asking the referees co-ordinator Pierce Freaney how such a mistake occurred and looking at potential solutions, agreeing with one suggestion that the burden for totting up cards could be removed from the referee to the fourth official.
“If we have to change the way things happen, let’s change them. Whatever has to happen, let’s do it. (We must) see where along the line did we slip up so that we can get the matter sorted out going forward. It shouldn’t have happened.”
Meanwhile, the President extended his sympathies to the families of TP Pettit and Pat Healy, who passed away in recent days.
Pettit was an up-and-coming referee who acted as umpire in Sunday’s All-Ireland club football final while Healy — a brother-in-law of Limerick football manager Mickey Ned O’Sullivan — was a long-serving and valued member of the GAA’s National Finance Committee.
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Post by kerry07 on Apr 3, 2007 23:22:47 GMT
In answer to a question about the failure to have Mc Entee sent off he replied to the effect that it was unfortunate but the Crokes could count themselves lucky that they werent beaten by more. His manner was deplorable and the clear imputation was that they were not good enough. Of course the other carry on that was reported to have went on was not put to him. No reference was made to the drawn game. The message was simple from Mr President though it is unfortunate that a mistake was made it was simply a case of no apologies no regrets and take your medicine boys. The Crokes deserved nothing better from the association and fair play is out of the question. IN MY OPINION AMATURE PLAYERS WHO GIVE THE LEVEL OF COMMITTMENT THAT THE CROKES TEAM HAVE DESERVE AT LEAST TO BE TREATED FAIRLY AND WITH DUE RESPECT FROM WELL PAID OFFICIALS WHO IN REALITY ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO OFFER A VIEW ON PLAYERS SUCH AS C COOPER,E BROSNAN K O LEARY AND OTHERS.I can tell you the message given was loud and clear -How dare anyone question me about such little matters. He should be reminded who is paying the bills including his salary. Sometimes I wonder if pay for play is such a bad thing. It certainly seems to be a fairer way to disperse profits of the association than paying large salaries and expences to the likes of Mr President.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Apr 4, 2007 0:42:38 GMT
Are you sure he is being paid a top salary as you put it? He is on sebatical from his own job in order to take it up, and the milage he clocks up I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
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Post by seamus on Apr 4, 2007 8:27:56 GMT
He always strikes me as a gobshite. He view on opening croke park was that he did'nt have a view! He wants to get rid of the All Ireland Junior Football and Intermediate hurling competitions. He will wreck the positive steps taken by Sean Kelly in keeping the GPA and players happy.
He is back in the darks ages and i have no time for him. It is the luck of god he has the likes of Liam Mulvihill and Peter McKenna beside him. Reminds me a lot of George W actually.
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Post by mickmack on Apr 4, 2007 8:59:04 GMT
He always strikes me as a gobshite. He view on opening croke park was that he did'nt have a view! He wants to get rid of the All Ireland Junior Football and Intermediate hurling competitions. He will wreck the positive steps taken by Sean Kelly in keeping the GPA and players happy. He is back in the darks ages and i have no time for him. It is the luck of god he has the likes of Liam Mulvihill and Peter McKenna beside him. Reminds me a lot of George W actually. Kelly is a hard act to follow but Nicky Brennan doesnt look up to the job. Out of his depth.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 4, 2007 9:20:12 GMT
his comments left alot to be desired all right on the news,almost a bit like tuf sh1te,now fcuk off back down to killarney.
the cross manager has become very focal in the last few days defending his team,i notice he made no reference to the amount of sterps osin took in the drawn game and the wide ball.You'd wonder if that was brosnan or the gooch would it have been a free out.Ask the kerry minors their opinion on that one from last september,or indded the duagh forwards at the death or even tommy doyle for that matter.
cross dont need to be making comments at the moment,enjoy your success.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 4, 2007 10:16:09 GMT
Are you sure he is being paid a top salary as you put it? He is on sebatical from his own job in order to take it up, and the milage he clocks up I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. fact is he is not at work these days and someone is paying his wages,that surely that must make him a full time professional member of the gaa,ie.professional full time paid president. Id imagine senior members/employees in a large food company like glan bia dont come cheap,what would it be,100grand plus per year min x 3 years,you dont need a masters in maths to calculate that one. fact two,mike mc carthy cant play for kerry this year because his employers being from a foreign state dont give a continental fcuk about gaa matters or kerry football.Why cant he take a sabatical and become a full time paid professional member of the gaa also,Well,why?,i waiting. And dont tell me mike is sick of football,if he was he wouldnt have played for munster after announching his retirement,gone on the all-star tour or be playing for his club.He is only 28 years old. Brian Dooher switched from private practice to a government vets job for more socialable and workable hours,people questioned it,geezer its reported hasnt been seen much around his place of employment for a while,people questioned it. surely kerry can organise something for mike mccarthy,if our president can get away with it,why cant a player.If not,its double standards and it is very hard to listen too to be honest. if mike doent play for kerry this july,august and september,well that is just careless. Ps, coping with long distance driving is just a mental state of mind.
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Post by owenabue on Apr 4, 2007 10:29:12 GMT
From today’s Examiner: www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=29501-qqqx=1.aspCrokes complaints ‘sour grapes’, says Crossmaglen manager 04 April 2007 By Colm O’Connor CROSSMAGLEN manager Donal Murtagh described complaints by Dr Crokes after Sunday’s ill-tempered All-Ireland Club football final replay as nothing more than “sour grapes.” Murtagh has rubbished the claim that a Crossmaglen official had intimidated Croke’s substitutes at half-time in the game at Portlaoise. The Cross boss also rejected claims that his team had targeted Colm Cooper, Eoin Brosnan and Kieran O’Leary. “Any cynical tackling in the game came from Crokes,” insisted Murtagh. “I sent out the team to mark 15 players, to do a job. I told Paul Kernan to keep tight on Cooper but all the players got the instruction to stay tight on their men, particularly the backs. The theory that we were targeting O’Leary, Brosnan and Cooper is utter nonsense.” He alleged: “David McKenna was dragged down twice when he was going through for a score and one of the tackles was very high around the neck. I know if the tackle had been done by Francie Bellew he would have got a straight red card. Also, we didn’t complain about Francie Bellew getting kicked in the head in the first half when he was left with a cut above his left eye.” Murtagh felt compelled to hit back in the row after hearing a “whole series” of complaints from Dr Crokes chairman Patrick O’Sullivan. “It all sounds like sour grapes to me. There seems to be a new complaint every time I get called by a journalist. I don’t know where it’s all coming from. It was a tough physical game. That’s what you get in an All-Ireland. We’re well used to it and we know what to expect.” Crokes chairman O’Sullivan also claimed that midfielder Ambrose O’Donovan had been struck by a Crossmaglen fan after being sent off. Murtagh said he “didn’t know” whether Cross spectators had been involved in any incidents but he added that the club’s supporters “have always had a good reputation”. “All I can say is that my players are disciplined and we proved over the last 11 years that we have a very disciplined support as well. If anyone is to blame, it’s the GAA because of their policy of putting subs out among supporters. That is an accident waiting to happen but I can only speak for my players.” In relation to the controversy surrounding John McEntee staying on the field despite his two yellow cards, Murtagh now claims referee Eugene Murtagh apparently gave the player the first caution by mistake. “The referee said to John McEntee ‘I didn’t mean to give you the first booking. You’re lucky to stay on the field but I didn’t mean to give you the first card’. “When John came off, he told us he hadn’t got two yellows but a yellow and a tick. We told him he had got two yellows but he told us that the referee had not meant to give him the first yellow card.” Murtagh acknowledged he was “guilty” of not visiting the Dr Crokes dressing room after the game. “I was caught up with everything after the game and by the time I’d dealt with the media and got to speak to my team, it was practically an hour after the game.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Apr 4, 2007 14:19:18 GMT
I'm not sure about that Seamus. To be honest, anybody who came into the hot seat after Cyclone Kelly would want to be a gun toting, joint smoking liberalist to have managed to create a level of press coverage / hype around the GAA presidency that would allow them to look favourable after Sean Kelly.
Nickey knew well that his job would be to settle down, batten down the hatches for the inevitable backlash from the more conservative bunch demanding change after Sean left, and to ensure that the viable plans were put in place and the plain daft ones rooted out. He was never going to seek the limelight or anything like that.
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