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Post by kerryeye on Apr 20, 2007 13:35:07 GMT
Murphy Marc,tom,reidy Tomas,aidan,griffin Dara,Eoin Paul,declan,sean Gooch,star,Russell
Will Declan be captain again this year if Sheehan doesnt start,he said he didnt really want it after the last 2 years.Cant see Sheehan starting,hasnt really contributed anything from play durin the league.Id have Darren o sullivan on before him.Realistically if u look at it what does Sheehan bring to the team from Open play??Ther will be some big decisions for tyhe selectors come championship time.
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Post by joan on Apr 20, 2007 17:55:50 GMT
I mention this in another topic. There are alot of players to choose from. You have reidy young and bohan looking to get a position in the backs. The forwards there are 12 for 6 spots I agree the Eoin will be there but where?? Could see him between mid field and center forward. If center where declan?? I cant see Bryan starting either but quill scanlon walsh and darren are still knocking on the door for a spot.I think kerryeyes you are close enough in your team choice except I think eoin will be center forward....
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Post by kerryeye on Apr 20, 2007 18:48:46 GMT
Ok guys where does declan O sullivan fit in. You have so many forwards at the moment its going to interesting to see the way the team will shape up for Championship. So far you have declan darren sean donnach paul eoin gooch quill scanlon MFR Kieran byran for 6 spots. Quirke is also still on the panel. Is there a cut to be made?? Intersesting times ahead. Lot of forward options there alright, u didnt mention Paul o Connor and kieran o leary either.That is a lot of forwards.A bit light in numbers in defence and an over supply in the forwards.That is why i say that players will probaly be switched around and not played in there preferred positions,i.e eoin in midfield and griffin in the half back line.Scanlon and Quirke are both midfielders as there performances against Dublin proved and dont think we'll see them in the forwards durin the championship as we have enough options there already.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 20, 2007 18:57:46 GMT
if declan stayed inside corner forward he would score 4 or 5 points per game,
declan,keiran,gooch would take serious watching on the fullforward line,you would have the potential with that fullforward line to score 2-10 per game.
i feel declan has the footballing ability if he concentrated soley as a corner forward to be as effective as sheehy or egan.
the lad has football ability coming out his ears.
i wonder will we see a kevin keegan type team from kerry this summer with all out attack and a suspect back line.
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Post by kerryeye on Apr 20, 2007 19:49:22 GMT
I think that is a very good suggestion,When did the idea come that declan could only play at centre forward,i remember him kickin 8 points in Munster minor final from full forward,when he startad as senior in 03 it was as a full forward,i think that this would be well worth a try.I would love to see his game concentrating on going forward instead of being a workhorse,think the team would really benefit,not sure if the management will try something like this however.
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Post by mickmack on Apr 20, 2007 20:51:25 GMT
Not that we have donaghy at 14, the onus on Declan to be a work horse is gone. I agree that Declan is a massive talent............ I dont think the captaincy suited him....... he was a bit young for it............ with that millstone off him he could se sensational. Declan would always start on my team
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Post by mickmack on Apr 20, 2007 20:55:17 GMT
i wonder will we see a kevin keegan type team from kerry this summer with all out attack and a suspect back line. I dont think so to be honest. Seamus, McCarthy and Fitzmaurice will not be easily replaced but.......... I think the backs will hold their own. Often when a defense is under pressure and struggling it is down to the midfield or half forward line being beaten with the result that quality ball is being played in to the opposing forward line
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 20, 2007 20:56:40 GMT
i feel we have seen nothing from declan yet,just the mere tip of the ice burg.
will we need a specialised free taker if our attack is funtioning to it max potential?
freed of the jack declan relationship might be a good thing for him also,i'd love to see him as an out and out no.13,pato is no fool either.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 20, 2007 20:59:17 GMT
i wonder will we see a kevin keegan type team from kerry this summer with all out attack and a suspect back line. I dont think so to be honest. Seamus, McCarthy and Fitzmaurice will not be easily replaced but.......... I think the backs will hold their own. Often when a defense is under pressure and struggling it is down to the midfield or half forward line being beaten with the result that quality ball is being played in to the opposing forward line good point.
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Post by mickmack on Apr 20, 2007 22:18:22 GMT
Whats the story with Brendan Guiney? Is he injured? Would have expected him to make a serious challenge for a slot in defense
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Post by kerryeye on Apr 20, 2007 22:29:20 GMT
i i'd love to see him as an out and out no.13,pato is no fool either. Think we might put him at 15 and let Gooch at 13,that is a full forward line that id love to see.Gooch, star and declan but if we take off Mfr we are takin our only other free takin option off.
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Post by bigbrother on Apr 21, 2007 11:04:17 GMT
Thinking outside the box – A Kerry team with a difference
D. Murphy
Marc O’ Se D. O’ Se T.O’ Sullivan
T O’ Se A. O’ Mahoney D.Bohane
M.Quirke T.Griffen
S.O’ Sullivan E.Brosnan P. Galvin
C.Cooper K.Donaghy D Quill
Maybe worth a try? Of course, I don’t expect this to be the Championship team but just something different to ponder on. I think Kerry’s weaknesses for me have been in the back line for a couple of years the amount of goal chances we give up per game is crazy. I think Dara O Se would make an outstanding all commanding, all conquering full back. In my opinion great teams are built from the defense out. I still think the midfield of Quirke and Griffen would beat most midfields and distribute well. Seamus Scanlon is also good option for there and if things are going wrong, bring out Dara. Plus, this team still has size and strength right up the middle where you want it.
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Post by kerryeye on Apr 21, 2007 12:37:11 GMT
Something to ponder but that will never happen in a million years will happen.There is no chance of that ever happenin,takin our most influential player and best midfielder in the country and shifting him to full back,the only way i can ever see Dara playin anywhere other than midfield is if he plays on until he's 35 or 36 and cant keep up to thepace.
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Post by mickmack on Apr 21, 2007 13:31:14 GMT
This happened before......... the 4 in row had John o Keeffe at fullback. The 3 in a row team had Sean Walsh at fullback. Both midfielders. It wont happen with Dara because he wouldnt stay there unless he was spancilled to the goal post.
Just imagine a full back line of
Marc o Shea. Dara o Shea Tomas o Shea
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Post by kerry07 on Apr 21, 2007 14:01:00 GMT
Looking at the defense set up we have to admit that with out Mike Mac we are a weaker outfit by far. Tom can improvise and always rises to, and relishes a challange, but against a natural strong full forward he would need massive pressure to be exerted on the incoming supply to survive in my opinion. The Donegal and Armagh full forward lines in particular would be difficult. The rest Mayo Tyrone Cork Dublin and Laois are managable. One thing that bugs me slightly is the absence of mention of Brendan Guiney from the defence permutations all ready mentioned. He is strong tough athletic and also is on the panel for a couple of seasons. In training I have noticed that he is best able to cope with Paul and that says something. K Young has to be factored in also. All due respects to Bohane I think that come August he might be a little light and inexperienced(thats no critisism). What about Marc, Tom, Young/Reidy,B Guiney Aidean, Tomas for the more robust attacking forces. Bohane , Reidy and Lyons to be used against less physical/mobile attacks. Should Mike come back then I think Reidy makes way with Guiney/Young/ Lyons alternatives at wing. Just a thought. Joan the problem with forwards for Kerry is that there must be at least 10 combinations that could be effectively deployed. I can see no other outfit with the quality of forwards and flexibility of players that Kerry have. Do we use a placed ball forward, do we go fast on the wings, do we go long and high,do we play into space and use speed, do we feed off of primary possession with runners. I mean seriously what is Pat to do ? No other manager has these problems ! if problems they be. Colm and Ciaran and Paul are the definites. I think its mix and match on a game by game basis after that. Darragh starts every day and again his partner could change on occasion. We have some panel of players but probably need one natural full back to complete the picture. Have we any takers for number 3 outside Mike Mac at the moment?? That said we are far away from a K Keegan type defence but maybe blanket attack is the way to go.
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