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Post by kerrygold on Feb 16, 2007 19:35:35 GMT
Just in responce admin to your question on the forum performance thread,what if we created this thread to discuss general sports issues on an ongoing basis.
say for example if somebody wanted to leave a tip for a horse running in the grand national etc,
or if somebody wanted to discuss Tiger Woods performance in the open.
or derval O Rourke running in an world sprints final.
The thread on Ireland v France in croker has created some interesting discussion,maybe this thread could be saved and used to discuss other sporting events etc.
What do ye think?,sorry if i jumped the gun in opening this thread,no worries if ye want to pull it.
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Post by admin on Feb 16, 2007 20:00:14 GMT
I dont see anything at all wrong with that. If the GAA can accomodate foreign sports then so can we
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Post by mickmack on Feb 16, 2007 21:36:40 GMT
What did ye think of Henry Shefflin being voted the sports pensonality of the year by RTE at Christmas ahead of Derval O Rourke and Paul o Connell? The more I thought about it........ they were right........ he is the best hurler in the world at present! And an amateur which makes all the difference
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Post by mickmack on Feb 16, 2007 21:48:41 GMT
He won 2 all ireland medals and a county championship medal in 2006. Who is he?
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 16, 2007 22:06:05 GMT
ronan hussey?
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Post by mickmack on Feb 16, 2007 22:11:08 GMT
Maybe Ronan Hussey did but I was thinking of someone else. What 2 all irelands did he win
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Post by mickmack on Feb 16, 2007 22:12:26 GMT
Will Man U win the premiership? They havnt had a real bad spell yet
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Post by seamus on Feb 16, 2007 22:24:22 GMT
Steven Wallace won 2 All Irelands, junior club and all ireland junior and he also won a county intermediate championship with Ardfert???
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 17, 2007 1:06:06 GMT
Will Man U win the premiership? They havnt had a real bad spell yet should do, nine wins needed from eleven games.They could be 12 points clear,west ham and arsenal were disasters.Proberly only in in front because chelsea are dwindling this season.Although saying that manu's form this season is that of championship winning form.There'll be a few twists and turns yet,fergie,scholes,neville and giggs are around long enough now to get them over the line.Even though i hate to admit it,united's position proberly adds credience to bradys taunts that fergie was carrying an ageing keano last season,perish the thought. United to win it with a few games to spare,fergie has weeded out most of the passengers in the united panel now even though a few drifters remain,Giggs to thread a pass to Rooney to seal the premiership.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Feb 17, 2007 1:09:51 GMT
Maybe admin could move this to the long term topic site?
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 17, 2007 1:12:47 GMT
What did ye think of Henry Shefflin being voted the sports pensonality of the year by RTE at Christmas ahead of Derval O Rourke and Paul o Connell? The more I thought about it........ they were right........ he is the best hurler in the world at present! And an amateur which makes all the difference Its not every year we have a world sprints champion nor a european no.1 golfer,fellows star in all-ireland victories every year.Having said that padraig proberly needs to land one of the four majors first.
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Post by mickmack on Feb 17, 2007 8:11:33 GMT
Steven Wallace won 2 All Irelands, junior club and all ireland junior and he also won a county intermediate championship with Ardfert??? Thats who I had in mind
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 17, 2007 10:54:22 GMT
Maybe admin could move this to the long term topic site? it might be lost in the long term thread and only regular users of the forum familar with thread will know of its existence. maybe we could see how the thread developes over a short period of time and decide its best location then. however,like a referee,admins call has to be final and respected in keeping control over the forum,What ever admin feels is the best location for the thread should be respected.
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Post by ciarrai33 on Feb 17, 2007 12:50:06 GMT
from todays indo
With all the talk of rugby being played at Croke Park Hugh Farrelly takes a look at the GAA players who could more than hold their own representing Ireland against y opposition iin the oval game Saturday February 17th 2007 ADVERTISEMENT
WITH all the talk of rugby's incursion into GAA territory, we thought it would be the perfect time to contemplate some movement in the opposite direction and ponder who would be the current Gaelic stars most likely to succeed in the oval code.
There have been some notable crossovers in the past: Meath All-Ireland winning star David Beggy used his pace and aggression to wonderful effect for Blackrock College and Leinster.
Cork midfielder Shea Fahy was a more than useful operator for Highfield at the tail of the line-out and off the base of the scrum, while James McCartan was likened to combative Welsh centre Scott Gibbs when the Down star dabbled in the All-Ireland league in the early 1990s.
There are also the more celebrated cases of Moss Keane, Mick Galwey and Noel Mannion to draw on when searching for examples of those who have excelled in Gaelic games before making a name for themselves in rugby.
Indeed, there are many similarities between Gaelic football and rugby, both codes require an ability to beat your marker through a combination of aggression and evasion, while the imperative to protect possession in contact has seen many football teams practise with tackling bags, a long established rugger training tool.
The suitability of hurling skills in a rugby scenario are tougher to gauge but athleticism and physicality stand out in any code and we have included some notable camán-wielders in our fantasy team on that basis.
We have also bent the rules slightly to include a couple of former county stars plying their trade in Australia as GAA followers still regard them as their own. So, with prerequisites established, here is the Irish Independent's GAA/Rugby XV selected from players still actively involved in the game:
IRISH INDEPENDENT GAA/RUGBY XV Full-back Tadhg Kennelly (Kerry/Sydney Swans) Colm Cooper was considered for this role but his less-than-robust frame stood against him. Kennelly has excelled in Aussie Rules, patrolling the defensive zone; his keen anticipation, strong, accurate kicking and powerful tackling have established the Listowel man as a central cog in the Sydney Swans operation.
Kennelly, a half-forward in his Kerry days, also has the speed and footballing nous essential for a rugby full-back's attacking duties, particularly a sense of timing that would benefit incursions into the backline.
Right Wing Steven McDonnell (Armagh) We went for a man here who could replicate the qualities the inestimable Shane Horgan brings to the Irish No 14 jersey. Like Horgan, McDonnell is no Carl Lewis, but no slouch either and is well able to handle himself in the physical exchanges. The Armagh forward also seems to share Horgan's voracious appetite for points and rarely fails keep to the scorekeepers busy.
Outside Centre Seán Óg Ó hAilpín (Cork, capt) Like Ireland's No 13 Brian O'Driscoll, Seán Óg oozes class and, in many ways, is the face of the GAA. A wonderful spectacle of athleticism, hugely marketable but with a nice line in self-deprecation, the Ó hAilpín package would have made him an extremely wealthy man if he operated in a professional sporting environment.
One would have no fears for Ó hAilpín's ability to excel in attack or defence and he would be the natural choice as captain.
Inside Centre Bryan Cullen (Dublin) Cullen has impressed over the past few years as a player with maturity beyond his years and possesses a healthy blend of aggression and inspiration. Has the ideal physique for the inside centre slot, deceptively strong with the low centre of gravity needed to find space in the heavily-congested midfield area.
Left Wing Stephen Kelly (Limerick) Like Denis Hickie and Simon Geoghegan before that, left wing is where you look for three qualities: pace, speed and velocity. Kelly is a flyer. He terrorised Kerry in the drawn Munster final a couple of years ago and has been putting his Flash-like qualities to good use with Shannon as a free-scoring number wide man in the AIL.
Out-Half Ciarán McDonald (Mayo) The key position. Mayo's string-puller has the mental strength, the hands and the kicking game to control a game accompanied by a nonchalant flick of his blond locks. A McDonald pass is a thing of beauty and it is not hard to imagine him arrowing Ronan O'Gara-like kicks into the corner. In addition, his strength would make him an exciting running option as first receiver.
Scrum-Half Paul Galvin (Kerry) Jason Sherlock was considered for the No 9 shirt but Galvin's capacity to irritate the opposition, allied to a huge work-rate, carried the day. Not the most gifted footballer on the Kerry team, but he is an essential link man and tireless in his pursuit of the ball, priceless qualities in a top-level scrum-half.
Loose-Head Prop Niall Sheridan (Longford) Big and belligerent, Sheridan never gives an inch which suggests a man who would make a point of not allowing the scrum to retreat on his watch. The Longford cult hero is no slouch on the ball either and a fearsome sight on the charge.
Hooker Diarmuid O'Sullivan (Cork) Ireland has had its share of inspirational hookers over the years (one thinks instantly of Ciarán Fitzgerald, Terry Kingston and Keith Wood) and O'Sullivan has always been a man to lift a crowd out of their seats. His immense strength would be invaluable at the coalface and one suspects the Cloyne man would relish the 'no prisoners' nature of life in the No 2 shirt.
Tight-Head Prop John Carroll (Tipperary) Again, physical presence was the primary requirement when looking for a man to excel in the dark arts of front-row play and Carroll has that in spades. The tight-head's main functions are to lock the scrum, lift in the lineouts and hit everything that moves, a job spec perfectly suited to the Tipp colossus' resumé.
Second-Row Setanta Ó hAilpín (Cork/Carlton) The front jumper needs to mix boot-bollock-and-bite with natural athleticism, as Donncha O'Callaghan does for Munster and Ireland, and Ó hAilpín's improved muscle-mass since his move to Australia makes him the perfect specimen.
Second-Row Kieran Donaghy (Kerry) The basketball star's devastating impact on last season's All-Ireland football championship had many rugby observers wondering: "What if?" His ability to soar skywards, combined with soft hands and peripheral vision earmark him for middle-of-the-line lineout duties and a safe port of call at restarts.
Blindside Flanker Kieran McGeeney (Armagh) The best No 6's in rugby have been unrelentingly hard in the tackle and selfless in their workrate, happy to graft ceaselessly and let the plaudits go elsewhere. McGeeney is a shoo-in for this role. The Armagh man has the same SAS-type qualities that made England's Richard Hill peerless in his day.
Openside Flanker Francie Bellew (Armagh) Another Orchard County man, but Bellew's credentials make him ideal for the role of tearaway No 7. An openside has to have a keen sense of anticipation, a need to scrap for every morsel of possession and also be driven by the desire to terrorise the opposition's primary attacking threat (usually the out-half).
Bellew's man-marking ability and existence on the borderline of legality are the same qualities that have seen Richie McCaw elevated to the position of world's best openside.
No 8 Ciarán Whelan (Dublin) A wonderful athlete, the Dublin midfielder's supreme fielding abilities would find a perfect home at the back of the lineout.
The No 8 tends to one of the team's primary yard-gainers and Whelan has oodles of the steel and head-down belligerence that would see him excel in this role.
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Post by ciarrai33 on Feb 17, 2007 12:52:44 GMT
Any other suggestions for players, it might be the ideal game for Micheal Quirke as a Bull hayes replacment. Id say Galvin would love buzzing around the rugby field.
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