Underage dicipline problems

[peadar]

Do ye think that there is a dicipline problem in football at an underage level in kerry??

I was in shannon park in tarbert at the weekend to watch moyvane V ballylongford u16s. The game had to be abandoned due to a mass brawl on the pitch, a number of yong fellas left with bloody lips and noses. young lads also ran onto the pitch from the sideline to enter the fray and one young man tried to attack the referee. I heard from a few young lads a few days before the match that there was serious rivalry between the two teams and that some players were out for revenge. I rember laughing when i heard this thinking it was just harmless banter. (a bit of teenage hardtalk syndrome) after all they are only u16s.

I was well and truely mistaken!!

[Lolly Valance]

I wouldnt worry bout it. It just gets highlighted more now than ever b4. I remember the brothers under 16 team had 5 or 6 games abandones one season for that tye of carry on only bout 9 years ago. Its always been there and always will be. Its just the media blow it up and everything nowdays. The carry on at the sem and green game was ridiculous but i can understand this type at things at club level. I think the gaa are trying to be too politically correct at the mo.

[joan]

I disagree. I think that the sportsmanship of the game is not be taught at minor level at home.
It not all about the win.When its win win win you get kids into a big fisty cuffs fight. i as a parent I would be angry if any of my kids behaved in that manner. Its not on nor should it be allowed. I would hold the managment accountable for that. They should be able to dicipline kids for gods sake. It would not happen here. They be war over it. Last time we had a problem u21 match hardly kids, but they suffered dearly for it. Bad behavior continues if not called into check from the get go,

[kerrygold]

its modern society,me,me,me,all take and no give,no respect for others or others property or personal belongings,dealing with the public on a constant basis i see the good the bad and the ugly most days but especially at weekends when drink is involved.Peope can become quiet septic when alcohol is consummed and lead to obnoxious behaviour and personality change,ask the guys in accident and imergency.
Discipline starts in home,what you see at home is what and who you are,no point point in blaming teachers or team mentors,thats the lazy way out.
Welcome to mdern society.

[Lolly Valance]

Fair enuf bout the discipline. In the old days if a fella was acting the maggot the manager could roar at him or threaten him with a slap or whatever. If u did that now ud be up in the High Court

[branch]

Discipline begins at home!! Kids seem to be getting away with a lot more these days. When I was a young fella, if I got a clatter at school, I'd be d**n sure not to home and tell my mother, because I'd get another clatter for doing something that got me the first clatter! These days, if you went home and told your mother that you got a clatter there would be an attorney down to the school wondering why little Jonny "the angel" got hit. Meanwhile little Jonny is probably the biggest w*nker in the class!

Respect for authority and elders seems to have dwindled since I was a young lad and I think that is why we are seeing a lot more violence at these underage games!

[joan]

I agree it begins at home but it has to be followed through by managers etc involved wth minors. It kids are disrespecting team mentors other players etc. can they or not drop them?? My answere is sit out a few and we will see how fast they will learn. Sorry lads said it already I would loose the head if my kids behaved in a manner that disrespected our game, fellow players and mentors.

[mickmack]

The lads who play sport are a cut above the 16-18s who have left school and fly around on their cars with no respect for anyone.

Its a culture thing with the gaa. I know of an under 18s rugby team that has about 6 gaa players on it and who backbone the team when there is no gaa match on. The gaa lads are usually the ones giving lip and showing no respect. Sorry to say......

[peadar]

I attended the last international rules match in dublin and i honestly believe that at this stage the majority of people go to watch the fights. I was shocked to find grown men roaring hit him or jumping up and down with excitement when a fight broke out. If a child or adolesent sees there father and other grown men condoning and encouraging this kind of behaviour then they are obviously going to think that iT is accecptable and that they can get away with it. This also goes on at club level at senior and junior matches and i have seen it many a time. There seems to be a hard man image with the gaa. Have you ever heard older people say to younger people. "we were much harder footballers back in our time", Or "if someone like him was playing back in my day he would have been killed"A challenge is being subconciously set to test the bravado of these young lads .I can assure you this is going on in north kerry anyway and in my opinion grown men are the ones that are at fault for encouraging this type of behaviour to their children whether directly or indirectly. Its a DISGRACE!!

[smirnoff]

i heard about the match in shannon park and i have to say that any supporters or managers that enter the pitch to confront players or referees should be severely punished.. its an absolute disgrace.. the ref shud be able to handle the actions of players on the pitch especially at the u16 level.. aswell as that wouldnt the majority if not all of those teams go to the same school... how do the school control them 5 days a week. is it like an excuse to try and kick the s**t outa each other once school hours over. but they only young lads i suppose they will learn a lot over the next couple of years

[topcat]

Im sure some of ye may have seen this one before, i came across it on youtube some time ago,
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3wnE-hIhoM

[peadar]

aw lads them moyvaners are fair lunatics in fairness. there half cracked up there. They wouldnt need any ball there happy out to bate the heads off each other.