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Post by kerry07 on May 26, 2007 22:41:36 GMT
a kn...er
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Post by mickmack on May 26, 2007 22:47:51 GMT
my point about mentioning ryan mcmenamin is that we are being a bit two faced to excuse paul galvin his indiscretions and then complain about the likes of ryan mcmenamin.
paul galvin is one of kerrys key players........ but..... we should accept that he has a dark side.
The brand name of "Kerry" in galeic football is synonomous with class, clean football. This has stood us in good stead over the years with refs etc.
This could easily go out the window.
Our yellow and red cards is now high.
We need to curtail galvins dark side and not be afraid to admit that he has one.
it will cost us otherwise
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Post by joan on May 27, 2007 2:07:07 GMT
I really dont think that the problem that Kerry is having with cards is all pauls fault. Dont think anyone is going to disagree with you that he has a dark side. BUT.. Is darragh not as bad for off the ball stuff. We have seen gooch play the favorite son and get caught by a ref for a sneeky one and now is also been watched.. Star is wicked.. Tom Sullivan and Adian gives as good as they get and Thomas is no angel if we want to start call a spade a spade. To curtail Galvin would be a very costly one for Kerry.He is the play maker. Cant take away his style of play. Again he is ribbed form the momnet he enters the pitch they always look to get into with him. Ok maybe he could hold his head a bit more but so could a few more. I am more than concerned about the attention we are getting form Refs but one man is hardly to blame. I think that age old kerry football is gone out the window. It hard physical and tactical football been played by all today and I dont really agree with it but its the trend. I have to say that Kerry is not as bad as others and would not even being to put them in the say ball park as say tyrone but the are a hardier team from the golden years. There also is the fact that we have officals calling attention to stuff before was left to the ref so we are paying attention to more of it ourselfs.
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Post by mickmack on May 27, 2007 8:54:36 GMT
If Galvin was playing for Cork, Tyrone or Armagh we in Kerry would hate him and they would love him. Thats the reality.
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Post by peadar on May 27, 2007 10:08:54 GMT
maybe the boys from the south should get a pair of liathroidis. a bit of venom is no harm at the top level. this is a contact sport!Paul galvin definately does not need to change his game.
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Post by kerrygold on May 27, 2007 11:10:36 GMT
from last summer mickmack what exactly are you refereing too re galvin?,i persume you are thinking about the cork semi and armagh games in particular.
cork clearly targeted paul o connor on his debut v cork in the drawn munster final where a number of cork backs repeately hit o connor off the ball when play had moved on,do you not conceded that on this evidence cork could just as easily target paul galvin in the same manner.
do you also not concede that as a senior member of the kerry team that paul galvin was well within his rights to ask a maor usice,a non playing sub,from an opposing team who had entered the field of play and started to interfere with kerry players to leave the pitch?
in certain games kerry will have to up the anti to survive,thats reality,against others they wont have too to the same degree. Thinking kerry can survive at the top table playing like choir boys sing is at best romantic notion best confined to the dust bin.
it was kerrys failure to up the anti levels when the gooch got injured that cost us an all-ireland v tyrone in '05,in fact they did the commplete opposite.
History will record that they lost that game.
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Post by mickmack on May 27, 2007 11:59:01 GMT
If Galvin was playing for Cork, Tyrone or Armagh we in Kerry would hate him and they would love him. Thats the reality. this is my point.......... Galvin, Cahalane, Coyle, McMenamin, Bellew, are indespensible and heroes to their own people. Praising you own and crtitising the same type of player from the opposition is hypocracy. Dublin dont have that type of player any more since Heary and Barr left. Galway and Mayo have no one like that. Not sure about Donegal yet. In conclusion....... kerrygold you are right. Galvin is key. I wish we had two of him. Just accept that other counties must have them too if they want to win SAM.
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Post by kerrygold on May 27, 2007 13:27:44 GMT
of course you need them,but i think they have always been in the game,i mean hard physical tuff players,flathery,breen,moynihan was a hard half back line.
paidi,tim kennelly,denihan were as hard as they come,not a pretty sight for a forward.
did you read john o breins article in to-days indo mickmack,the under tone is very much about laois becoming more physical this year under kearns,kearns made a fair stab at turning lemerick into a physical team.you need a physical spine in any team.
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Post by mickmack on May 27, 2007 15:49:12 GMT
Yeah ...... Laois will be a serious force if they add a bit of steel........ Longford wont be ready for it
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Post by piggy on May 27, 2007 17:46:52 GMT
i think McMenamin is a class player and if he played for your club or county you'd love him!when you play championship football you have to be ruteless and he does whatever it takes to win for his county.if it wasnt for these players the GAA wouldnt have half the appeal!
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Post by mickmack on May 27, 2007 21:13:58 GMT
to be honest there is a lot of huffing and puffing about north kerry football but from what ive seen the standard seems pretty piss poor. say 2 north kerry championship matches last year and all that happened was a load grudges being brought onto the football field for no reason. Ballyduff is primarly a hurling club. Does it imply a poor standard in the "football only" clubs when a dual club can win two north kerry championships in a row?
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Post by peadar on May 27, 2007 21:43:56 GMT
Tarbert the most northern of teams in the kingdom today made legion look very weak out on the pitch . Tarbert were stronger,fitter and more skillful than legion and most of all they had a lot more heart. If tarbert are anything to go by then north kerry football is not doing too bad at the moment at all.
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Post by piggy on May 27, 2007 22:43:43 GMT
exactly,they are a county championship team after all!!
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Post by joan on May 27, 2007 23:26:03 GMT
Tarbert were a huge force to deal with in the 70 and 80s They as all clubs went through some dark years but having regrouped the last few year shows their effective and getting the results and I have no doubt see division 2 next year. North Kerry football hard. Does not mean they are not skillfull.
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Post by kerry07 on May 28, 2007 0:22:42 GMT
I agree Kerrygold. Galvin is a vital cog in our wheel.To be honest we could do with 3 more of his equals.Give the purists in Cork something to talk about,show them some real negativity. In my opinion Tom Sullivan Mahony and Thomas would want to bloody well up it. Guiney is a loss too. For too long we have felt the need to entertain.F..k that just two in a row please ugly or clean. Thank you.
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